We first saw the All, Small or Tall (or maybe it's All, Tall or Small) layout in Las Vegas at Sam's Town. Since then it's made it into other Vegas casinos - NYNY, Wynn, Encore, Treasure Island - and has spread into some of the regional markets as well. The concept of the All, Tall or Small bet is fairly straight forward. You can bet that the shooter will roll every number on the dice before the seven shows (the ALL), that he'll roll all of the numbers lower than seven before the seven shows (2, 3, 4, 5, 6), or all of the numbers larger than seven before the seven shows (8, 9, 10, 11, 12).

If a 2 comes before a 7, then you win $15,000 for the Tall and $3,000 the Small. Or if a 7 happens before a 2, then you lose your $100 bet on the Tall and your $100 bet on the Small. Here's the Wizard of Odd's 7th Commandment of Gambling, 'Thou shalt not hedge thy bets Hedge bets usually carry a high house edge.

• But, alas, things are no longer normal in the craps universe since the creation of the Small, Tall, and All bets. Although they won their Pass Line bets, they boo you for rolling a 7 because their Small, Tall, and All bets lose. Remember, if a 7 appears at any time before all the numbers in the set, then the bet loses.
• As you play craps, you can choose the All Small bet that pays 34 to 1, the All Tall bet that pays 34 to 1, or the All or Nothing at All bet that pays a whopping 175 to 1. Bonus Craps brings a whole new level of excitement to players at Little Creek Casino Resort.

The All, Small, or Tall bets are made at the beginning of the shooter's hand - when he first gets the dice. You can bet any or all three of the bets. There are a lot of ways to play it. I've see guys toss out $5 and get $2 each on the Small and Tall and $1 on the All. I've also seen it go the other way, a buck each on the Small and Tall and $3 on the All. Or you could just toss out $3 and bet all three for a buck each. You can put me in that category. I consider it a 'recreational' bet - in the same category as Fire Bets, Harways, Horns and Hop Bets. I also like to use the All, Tall, and Small as dealer toke bets. Yeah, dealers would rather have a hand-in. But I'd rather have them in the game.
The Small and Tall bets pay $35 to 1 on the layouts I've seen.
The ALL pays $175 to 1.
WOW
If you want to get into the odds of scoring on any of these bets I'll simply refer you to the wizard of odds website. http://wizardofodds.com/craps/appendix4.html#smalltall
I will tell you that I've hit the ALL bet twice. On a long hand it can happen. The last time I hit it I tossed FOREVER trying to throw aces. Finally hit it on a Come Out roll, winning both the ALL and the World High-Low combo I often play on the come out. Yeah, that was $230 minus my $10 Pass Line bet.
The idea I've seen bandied about on other websites revolves around a strategy we often use when going for the sixth number in the Fire Bet - laying against the point to guarantee a win. Can this idea be profitably applied to the All, Small or Tall as well? The answer is - maybe.
Let's say you're shooting for the ten to complete the bet. If you make the ten you'll win $175 plus your pass line bet and odds. But who's to say you have to shoot from the right side? Why not play $25 on the DP and lay $50 to guarantee yourself $50 if you seven out or net $100 if you make the point? Seems like a logical approach to me.
On another tack - if your remaining point is the two three, eleven, or twelve - will the casino book a 'No Twelve' bet? I don't think so. But even if they did you'd bet betting something like $39 to win $1 (or whever they put the breakage). Not a logical play in my book.
Sooooo, that gets us down to the point where I'd like some participation from you guys. How many of you have played the All, Small or Tall bet? Where did you play it? What was your approach to the bet. Did you have any success at it?
I know Irish has hit it because he and about have of the class showed up at the dealer school in Vegas something like an hour and a half late because he had the dice and was not giving them back.
Stories?
Let's hear 'em.
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I'm interested in the true odds on a new bet I saw at Treasure Island this last week. I have not seen it at other casinos.

I think SamsTown on the Boulder Strip has that.

Craps All Tall Bet

I think SamsTown on the Boulder Strip has that.

In May 2011, was at the Wynn and they now have the 'All, Tall and Small Bet' it on a few of their craps tables.
In my opinion, with the new table felt, it really changed the table characterists. A year ago I was very successful on several of their craps tables.
This year I helped them pay the light bill.
Eagledice

In May 2011, was at the Wynn and they now have the 'All, Tall and Small Bet' it on a few of their craps tables.

Also saw it at the Encore the day after WoVCon I.

Craps All Tall All Small App

Seriously, how does it compare to the Fire Bet?

Not exactly. There are several important differences.
There are three different bets in the All bet series.
Only one bet for FireBet.
A seven on a mid-roll come-out kills the All bets, requiring replacement mid-roll.
FireBets can only be made at the start of a shooter's roll, and don't come down until the shooter sevens-out.
The biggest difference, the All bet is counter to traditional craps betting. I.E. You're not interested in points, but numbers. A seven is always bad.
I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Not exactly. There are several important differences.
There are three different bets in the All bet series.
Only one bet for FireBet.

My mistake. I meant as far as house edge and pay-outs. I realize the mechanics are quite different.

I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Sucker bets are weird. In some games virtually everyone plays them, in some games everyone plays one or two but avoid another, and new side bets, I presume, take time to be accepted by more than a handful of players.As side bets go, the FireBet is appealing in that that it's one bet for the duration of the shooter's turn.

Craps All Tall Small Bet

It's the only side bet I ever play, and I think other people play it, while not playing other side bets, for the same reason.

I saw it last Sept at Wynn. About 10 people at the table, only 1 guy playing it. $5 every 7 - $2 on each of the High and Low, $1 on the All. I was there about half an hour, and he never got paid.

Is it still at the Wynn?